xxx, This may make Nessus and what it means i.e abuse, something that is a deep subject with you and on one which you contemplate. However, Moon/Pluto in conjunction does not have to turn bad. Why dont you put up your chart in my Forum and ask your question again. You find them sexually attractive. Next: Synastry Books Compared . It is like sky diving. I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. You are very welcome, my Friend. I have Dejanira in Pisces in the 4H. We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. My main point is reflection. To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. His ascendant is at 24 Virgo and has 0 Virgo in his 12th house. I wonder what do you think it would happen when nessus conjuncts nessus in synastry. You truly made my day! I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? That can be justified through basic psychology, I think. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. Thank you a bunch for being so sweet Free~ I do agree that Ami is quite insightful, however I would like to chime in and say that I do not make every aspect positive I make every aspect neutral because the stars and planets are not going to tell you something is bad or make something bad. The Lilith person might have trouble with issues surrounding desirability. If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. It makes me feel very crazy. hmm well I dont really have his birth time lol so I just went by the general aspects, so I can see what he does to my moon and where his planets fall in my houses but not vice versa. 9. In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. orb). My jupiter conjunct his sun and venus. For more context, Nessus/BML dont aspect anything else except a grand trine with Mercury/MC and Jupiter. Pick your top two questions and I will try to help, my Friend! 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. I am not surprised this happened to you. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. with Dejanira conjunct his natal Sun What does that mean? Eros is a spicy little asteroid who generates excitement in relationship astrology. Your words mean a lot to me! Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. Pluto conjunct Sun synastry indicates a powerful and transformative relationship. Your articles hit me hard again:-). If an asteroid is conjunct an angle or a planet, placed in a prominent position, or stands out because of some other reason, it can provide an additional layer of insight in chart analysis. If one person's Sun is conjunct Saturn and the other persons Eros is opposite Pluto, the contact will be quite different than if the Sun was conjunct Jupiter and Eros opposite Venus. I often see this aspect in the charts of couples who have been married for many years. Lilith is looking for sacred sex. Playing with someones emotions when these aspects are involved could lead to bad things such as violence. Moon conjunct pluto Im composite and moon in 12th house composite (our feelings were a secret for a long time as we didnt know how we felt and were not able to be together for a long time). I hope I can do this in my articles. PS I checked the synastry of a man I know for sure was abused by his own father physically and emotionally, throughout his childhood, and this mans Nessus is conjunct his fathers Sun. Yes, that is a good way to put it. Required fields are marked *. Ami, hello. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. Maybe, the good aspects just out weight this one. They are deceiving themselves, would be a better way to say it. Im not accepting you scaring people into running from possible happy, fulfilling relationships over one aspect that none of us even know how it can manifest in millions of ways. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. As such, I would be careful and watchful. I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. Most Astrologers dont tell things straight like I do. Thank you, amiann. Lilith and Ceres conjunct in the synastry chart Your rebellious free spirit and nurturing sides are enmeshed. It doesnt always make for the easiest of relationships, because both people come into the marriage with the weights of the past life issues, but it definitely has staying power. The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. I dont believe in past lives, Lo. What is your opinion on I really have not looked at these aspects in signs, though. The Lilith person brings sexual energy that is literally untamed. I've never experienced it myself, but have read that Lilith/Pluto contacts are also intensely sexual and even violent (particularly the opposition). We`ve known each other for a few months and generally it is a good relationship. Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. Once awakened, no matter how untamed the experience becomes, we are given a rare opportunity to integrate, redeem and restore Eros and Lilith to a place of honor through shared, transcendental sexual activity. What does this conjunction mean in a synastry? I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. I also have moon trine neptune, venus conjunction chiron snd more aspects to do with empathy. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. Relationships that provoke her and Eros, although excruciatingly potent at times, serve as a meeting place for both divine figures. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. Eros wants intense encounters that lead to lasting transformation. Most important to me is that you find Jesus. His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. Hi, Isis Conjunct the Vertex. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. under what theme of the forum? I also have Nessus in 22 Virgo exactly opposite my Sun, conjunct my Asc in 18 Virgo, and I am NOT an abuser, unless its in self defense.Either way, I dont enjoy hurting people. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. I have BML in my 1st house in Scorpio along with Venus and Saturn All are in conjunction with BML. This vertex conjunction shows up again like in my previous relationship. How we respond to this synastry contact has a lot to do with our own relationship to power and sexuality. When someone's planet touches our natal Eros in synastry, it is as if we have been stuck by Cupid's arrow. Still, even without the conjunction, I have Nessus in the 1st house, which would make me abusive, according to these theories, and I dont fit. This brings out their dark side. It can also happen that there are changes in your love life when the Vertex is triggered in your birth chart by some transiting planet or progression. Yes, I was thinking about this. This can indicate marriage, but it can also indicate a long-term romantic or sexual relationship. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. What if a man has Dejanira conjunct a womans Sun? I have no vested interest in any asteroid or any placement being any way other than my being able to help people. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. Nessus conj the NN in the natal would be a person who would likely be abusive. I do Astrology the way that I would want to learn it. It exposes our weaknesses and provides us a chance to deal with them constructively. Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. The chart shows the TRUTH. I would say that there must be wonderful soul connections that keep down the abuse that would come up without these. As one of the four largest asteroids (along with Vesta, Pallas, and Juno), Ceres is usually analyzed in the birth chart. I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. You have such a sweet spirit. Can it be dangerous amiann? Hi Ami, Ive been quietly enjoying your site for years now and am finally reaching out as Im intrigued by your work on nessus/deja and recently entered into a relationship with someone (not romantic) who I discovered has nessus and mars conj my nn exact. I have this aspect with someone Im seeing. How do you relate to all the men who have their Pluto there? I reply to the comments out of order because I do it on the central comment form. Yes, this is all very true but the charts exist outside of time, too. Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. Yes, their Moons are trine both in Earth signs. Maybe you felt this way sometimes given your Lilith-Eros contacts, but I was certainly the one more outwardly angry when the mess finally hit the fan. I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. xx, haha you are so cute, I like you and you write very simple and easy to understand. and should I post the picture of the chart (I usually get it from astro.com)? Thanks for your posts Ami. We have our arguments and I sometimes feel put down by him (and, to be fair, he feels the same way about me) and sometimes my self-esteem suffers. It is opinion, not truth. If you do not have either of these in the natal but have them in synastry, it will play out the same way. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. Can this aspect be calmed down by a Mars conjunct Saturn contact? I guess ill post mine and then our synastry chart. His abuse asteroid on her midheaven would be her reputation and career, right? Ceres person appreciates this, as they typically focus more on caregiving than on their own inner desires. Not good, my Friend. Or can both apply? I have to always be honest. She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". It is just the North Node, after all, not a personal planet. However, it's recommended to do an individual birthchart analysis before analyzing the Synastry to see the personal needs and potential for maintaining a healthy relationship. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. It is not pretty at all. A recent past life will influence every bit of the relationship you have now. His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! We enter the month of February, with lust, love and passion. Also, our vertexes are separated only by 7 degrees. It is a pleasure to be here. The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. thanks, M. Super passion unlike few else. Do we exile her from consciousness or build her a sanctuary for potent, creative expression? Chiron conjunct sun. Thanks for your help Amiann. Lets hope more info comes out about this connection.:). I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. I still talk to him to this day and I honestly will never forget how magnetic this relationship was. I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. When she contacts Eros in another, the answer to that question is found in the heart of a powerfully erotic relationship. My mother has her Nessus conjunct my sun and she has it conjunct her own north node, and my Dejanira is conjunct her moon, and there has NEVER been any type of abuse. Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? Synastry: Sun square Pluto, sun conjunct Amor, sun conjunct psyche, Pluto conjunct moon, Venus square Pluto, (they have Venus square Pluto)natal also, mars sextile Venus, Mars conjunct Sappho and trine Uranus (they have mars square Uranus natal mars) tine Jupiter, Venus conjunct Neptune and sun conjunct Venus and Eros square Pluto, Eros conjunct kaali, Venus conjunct kaali all opposite Nessus!! And as far as I know theres a strong correlation between nessus and psychopaths/abusers. Not eros. My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). Juno aspecting the South Node simply means that the pair was married (in some way) in a past life, or had a longterm marriage-like relationship. I dont even have tattoos or my ears pierced. I do find it funny that I have Dejenira in 5 deg Sag, since most of my arch enemies were Sags. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. crap. In my opinion, it will play out. I know this came off a bit more forward, but only because I want to make it clear that one persons feelings are not fact. He has pholus conjunct dejanira, all on my BML exact. A Lilith conjunct Mars synastry creates an intense hot affair that can lead to abuse of power and hostility, and this couple must learn to take care of each other before passion consumes their lives. Nessus is the abusers asteroid. Lots of good aspects so thats why the Nessus Dejanira confuses me. I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. It creates a synastry energy where all the houses for the whole chart are conjunct to their opposite house in the partner's chart. Things dont come out until marriage, sometimes. I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. As far as the form of abuse, one must look at the sign and the quadriplicity( cardinal, fixed or mutable) One must look at the chart to see how the abuse will play out but I think that abuse will occur in your situation with Nessus conjunct Dejanira. What about nessus exactly conjunct BML in synastry the man is nessus (9h), Wow Is there a super attraction that feels so strong that it will blow you off your feet? Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. He may have little sympathy for her weakness. What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? Also, our vertexes are conjunct in the same degree. It is a true soul mate aspect, to me. Karmic astrology synastry is suddenlyreally interesting when you want to look at your own relationship. In this video we will discuss the aspects between #Sun and #Eros in a synastry chart in Mix - Eros and Sun in Synastry! my sun in exact opposition to his pluto (I have this aspect in the natal chart) and my pluto in conjunction with his sun in an orb of 7 even far he can feel it? How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! I suppose I should add that. Do you think I need to worry about the Nessus/BML conjunction or about abusing the poor wounded birds I keep looking for? Thank you for this information! How would it play out if my boyfriends Dejanira is conjunct my venus/juno conjunction but my venus/juno is part of a grand trine with my midheaven and also my moon/Bella/mars/pluto conjunction? They have a very imaginative sex life. Connections between the Vertex and the lunar nodes are also indicators of past life in synastry. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. Eros Conjunct the Midheaven: This synastry aspect will be quite powerful for both parties since it will impact the way that the world views them. Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. I am sorry! Or rather nessus and dejanira support negative aspects since these are asteroids. Also, I try to be very direct to counter the tendency in many Astrologer not to take a stand. What I've read about Lilith makes it seem to me that she's sort of like the Feminine's Pluto with lots of primal sexual urges thrown in, so I'm sure she rooted herself comfortably into your already heavily Plutonic relationships. My Pluto opposite his Moon. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. I use the term female, but it would be the same for either sex. Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. My Dejanira is in 5 Sag, like his North Node. This would take a whole chart reading. With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. Many people say they have overcome things but I watch their actions and see they are lying. Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. When Eros touches the Sun, the energy of both the Sun and Eros awaken between . With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. Their capacity for intimacy and shared desire to melt into the fires of transformation is nothing short of total risk, which each are compelled to take- no questions asked. Welcome, Britt. I think theres a trine or sextile to other asteroids but nothing major. Check out our 40+ page relationship astrology eBook! The Fortuna would, likely, bring good fortune to the vertex person, likely in the arena of money. Sometimes I nurture sometimes he does. I think most people of the same time period would have it though, so it is not that big of a deal, I think. To be honest, few people overcome Nessus. Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. Opposition AC / Moon and trigone mars and saturne. That is why I, affectionately, call them too hot not to cool down. There are certain aspects I see in these dark,nuclear passion relationships. I always seem to have the opinion that these people are somewhat evil yet gullible and innocent and therefore they deserve to be abused. If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? We are to take the blueprint that is given and then do what we want with it. Where did you get these theories from? My eros was conjunct someone's mars and I did feel like whenever he was sexual, it was very erotic. YOU are the most important person to me. I hope I can do this when I tell you about my own life. It makes sense when you consider how deeply Lilith desires to eat/destroy her loves mythologically. 3. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. My venus is conjunct someone's eros right now. Who does whom, so to speak? That is what I was saying. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. I admire your wisdom. I know our feelings are mutually intense but certainly we experience our relationship from different perspectives. More about Synastry (relationship Astrology) Intermediate and advanced students of Astrology might enjoy our article, SoulMate . Isis is extreme devotion to the partner in the bravest, most selfless way possible. I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? Uranus is kink, so you do the math. Will be keeping my wits about me. . There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. I wasnt abused as a child in any way. Is this you? It is real to be neutral. Hi Amiann, how do you think nessus square neptune would play out in synastry, lets say if its almost exact. It wasn't until he began to withhold sex from me that I finally crumbled. Obviously the hard ones, like by a square or an opposition, adding to the (possibly) destructive passion! The year started with powerful and forward thinking energy that will assist in elevating us both spiritually and subconsciously. Your email address will not be published. What about Nessus conjunct Dejanira in synastry and there is no abuse whatsoever, what would that mean? You may be fated to marry. I believe her Dejanira is conjunct his Nessus by one degree. However, if you have Nessus/Dejanira and Mars/Uranus, particularly in hard aspect( opposition and square), it may make for dark spice, shall we say. Our composite moon is at 26 Virgo and pluto at 0 libra. BUT my dejanira is conjunct with his sun by one degree and my dejanira is also in the same degree as my AC What does that mean? If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. what would result from this? One person is kind of riding the other one in this. His Nessus makes no major aspect to my planets, except a 3 orb trine to my Mercury and North Node, and Vertex..could this mean well step on each others toes when it comes to reaching our goals? The issue is that me disagreeing with you being fatalistic (because what you say is not what always happens, not even 60% of the time because I have nessus/dejanira aspects with most people that are close to me, and I have never been abused or attacked in any of those relationships) does not mean that Im not accepting the truth. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. That is why it is so powerful. Do you have their synastry you could post on my Forum? That is why it feels so life and death. This aspect almost certainly speaks to karma from a past life marriage. My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. I just never have, not that it is not good. This is not dark sexual, per se. I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects I suppose you have choice on whether to act on it. It is desire, it is passion and love. Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). Romantic Conjunctions in the 12th House If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) Also, It doesnt suit me. Think sitting next to a roaring fire. Thank you again. 2021 - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Who would bring who abuse? I just got into astrology a month ago and find it fascinating. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. My guess is that it would be an obsessive relationship where both would try to hurt each other? What I wanted to know first was what past lives we had together. Deep soul love, incredibly painful at times. Im trying really, really hard not to jump to conclusions, so any help or advice you could give would be very much appreciated. tell me your story, if you care to, Juice dear. I would have to see the rest of the chart to tell more though, my Friend. Her theme is power-alluring and irresistible. Youll have to use your judgement here. with Dejanira conjunct his natal Saturn, Mars. This will be HOT. Any comments will help. I'm really only just starting to get to know Eros well, and Lilith is still somewhat elusive. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. I love you and hope you write to me to say hello or to ask questions. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? Eros thrills, scares and creates intense bonds. That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. They have a very strong sense of "us against the world," and they will fight to protect the boundaries of their relationship at all costs. Thank you, Lo and Welcome Knowing more. Try to post the charts so see a visual! Yes, astrology charts do show the truth of ones life, but the issue is that YOUR opinions do not equate the truth. vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? I dont mean to, but I think I find issues/hurts of my friends and partners and end up trying to mother them if thats what you meant.
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