Nobody but nobody doesnt sprint for 5th at the end of a Monument. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? I don't think much does get through to him, I really wish it did. and clearly was totally clueless. 1/9/22 4.2km to go, Stage 12 Vuelta a Espana: the riders are going uphill.Kirby: as they get to this step, but it doesnt last long, its like your mums old step, give it a polish, give it a clean and then a clean pair of heels to everybody else. I think it is just individual race directors who decide who gets to ride these bikes. The blokes an insult to all cyclists. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. He's fine when it's all action but flounders when it's a longer stage. Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. Kirby has the benefit of what he calls the ultimate pass the presence of his legendary co-commentator when it comes to cutting through the crowds and police lines. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast and what is lost from these two very different broadcasting scenarios. Cycling is a sport where there are no time limits and there are no constant action-packed sequences to speak about. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. wow, all the power to you man! Quite often you are talking while being handed a note, being spoken to by the director, and listening to race radio at the same time as well, says Kirby. That is in fact my main Friday occupation. When asked about the criticism, Kirby opined Its not like the written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it, I dont have that gift. He kept on saying, Its gone, its irretrievable. And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. Kirby has however found his own distinctive and unique style which has brilliantly worked for him all these years. Wow, all this over a commentator, so Kirby sees a Quickstep rider and mistakes it for Voeckler - that's funny, it's engaging! Don't miss a moment from Paris-Roubaix and Unbound Gravel, to the Giro dItalia, Tour de France, Vuelta a Espaa, and everything in between when you Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. Ive gotten drunk on the Galibier and been evacuated off the Galibier. And this sort of meaningless, demented jabber is not at all unusual I could have chosen many examples just from today. She got hit by a car and thats someones mum, not just a cyclist. Matt Stephens will be Eurosport's dedicated reporter on all Grand Tour coverage, bringing breaking news, updates, and interviews from inside the peloton. The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet". He is rubbish Eurosport have many other far better options we need a decent commentator not Carltons partridge esque musings. Shouldnt be that hard to organise with so many people here able to talk eloquently and intelligently for 4 hours. Discovery through its international sports unit, it operates two main channels Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 across most of its territories, and streams on Discovery+, which superseded Eurosport Player. Its Kirbys cheat sheetfor every stage in the race, with details of the top finishers, jersey wearers, men in the breakaway and so on. Help us to make it better. VN:What do you talk about differently when youre in the studio? Ive done so much and been so many places that I mostly have all of them embedded in my head. He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. There have always been deaths since the early 1900s from vehicle-related incidents. Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. All rights reserved. Baseless. Info-wise, being on-site is amazing.. Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. Driver escapes punishment for alleged hit-and-run on cyclist, as victim blasts police inaction and barriers to justice. Ill ring someone up on-site to talk to them. Especially on unstable surfaces. . There is a rumour that the plane ticket has already been bought for Mark to leave the Tour, but I think the temptation is there for him to go to the Champs-lyses because he believes in his mind that he has worked out how to unpick Marcel Kittel, who is his main threat. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . ), there is a thread in the Eurosport 'comments and suggestions' forum requesting that he be removed from the roster. Carlton Kirby is a sports commentator who is most known for his work commentating on the Tour de France. The atmosphere fills up with buzz from moment to moment that enthusiasm pushes the words out of the heart. Discovery company. You also get a guy filming on the one side of a cyclist, who is then blocking the rider from turning at the right angle into a corner because a motorbike is blocking him. Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. What blasphemy is this? Hosted by Duncan Steer. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. A mile from home, looked behind me, moved to the centre of the lane, stuck my arm out to turn right, got Editorial, general: info [at] road.cc Mrs John Murphy May 3, 2010 2,662 0 0 Aug 26, 2011. To show no fear is the best skill of all. On the descent, motorbikes often get too close to the cyclist in front of them. Eurosport have a lot of these, so theres a lot of conversation going on in your ear [between producers] and its quite a task trying to keep the flow of what you are saying, Kirby says. Ive now just watched the end of Milan-Sanremo again: Aranburu wasnt in the first group behind Morhoric, so he literally couldnt have come higher than 10th. Yes Harmon is okay and like I said - at least he does his homework on the teams and riders and hangs on every word uttered by Sean Kellyas though he is keen to learn the professional circuit. Its the constant attempts at humour, then the giggling at his own in-jokes that has me reaching for the mute button. You might remember an 'interpretive spinning' vid doing the rounds on social media a few weeks ago. And yet, love him or loathe him, Kirbys voice is as intrinsically linked to the Tour de France, for Eurosport viewers at least, as other famous voices across the sporting spectrum. As for Kirby - its the arrogance of the bloke - does he think his viewers are 10 year olds who know NOTHING about cycling. I comfort myself with the fact that there are people out there who actually hate Terry Wogan. Theres an awful lot of distractions to keep on top of, so if you happen to be looking at your notes when somebody has a moment and you dont see it, its not your fault., Kirby laughs. It was almost featureless and the riders would not engage in it at all. For no reason. Stig Broeckx avoids serious injury after being hit by motorbike. It just stays online forever. COME ON WRITE TO EUROSPORT AND LETS GET HIM OFF ! He is thinking Champs Elysees. #cycling @carltonkirby whatsonreading.com Carlton Kirby True Tales of the Tour de France | What's On Reading The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. e-bikes are very much the SUVs of the car world with every manufacturer seemingly keen to add at least one to their range to not miss out. pic.twitter.com/bcRWeK1p3o, just merder. James and Joe catch up with the chosen son of cycling commentary, Carlton Kirby. He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. We've asked Colnago for more details but they just shrugged their shoulders in reply. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. Riders have lost their ability to race, says LeMond, Nacer Bouhanni handed penalty, fined for shove. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? Its that melting pot of information that you get on-site. There must be so many ex-pro riders out there who would give valuable commentary and insight into the races. 2008present unless otherwise stated. Cue points, Kirby adds, are a bigger problem at Eurosport than with other networks, with producers calling for radio silence across the Eurosports various nationalbroadcasts to assist with the editing process. Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. Theyd often stop too Euskaltel-Euskadi were one of the most common for that, theyd roll to the front, let everyone know it wasnt an attack and then ride up the road to briefly chat to family! That is the way it appears. Hence, talking on something is difficult without matter. At dinner, you gather around the table and argue the hell out of it, and thats a big thing. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). ), there is a thread in the. Eurosport cant get away with this !! I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. I don't have anything against him personally, but he doesn't seem to get the basics of the sport. Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras. We have a quiet conversation about who is going to win today. And within the second group, he sprints hard, coming 13th overall. There are people who love what I do, and others who hate it, he admits. theres nowhere like ENOUGH cycling on tv. Read our full Privacy Policy as well as Terms & Conditions. Stay tuned! Kittel threw his arms up in the air, and lost not only first place, but second, third and fourth..winding up in fifth because of his complaints. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport . Maybe it's because he doesn't ride a bike himself? People were saying track preparation knocks you back for the sprint because it is a different form of physicality that is needed. Nonetheless, one other thing that Kirby believes, sets the very best apart is commitment. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. The Tour de Suisse is traditionally one of the last big races before the Tour de France. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. Its the art of illusion. My primary issue with Carlton Kirby is that he doesn't commentate on what is happening (he rambles whatever is inside his head). you can't have it on while doing other things and then return to the screen when it gets interesting because by the time Kirby has noticed many minutes will have passed. Join Outside+ to get complete access to exclusive content on VeloNews, training plans for road and gravel, and more. Theres so much stuff going on because in front of us for starters, we have live timing, results sheets, stage profiles, live pictures, alternative live pictures and a sub-monitor with the schedule. You also have picture breakdowns, sometimes audio breakdowns so weve got all that going on and we havent even got on to the racing yet!. As is seen in most cases, the primary action of any game takes place during the outset and ending parts. (@StasaZlatanovic) March 24, 2019. This year alone, we had a Sky rider getting his elbow clipped by a security vehicle when he went for a gap when none existed. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. UPDATE: New online Zoomcast show, July 16, click through for tickets. Kirbys Knowledge and Enthusiasm on the Mic is Unparalleled, When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, Michael Matthews powers to Bretagne Classic victory, Bora-hansgrohe riders false positive raises new doubts over accuracy of COVID-19 testing, Giro dItalia, Milan-San Remo under threat of cancellation due to coronavirus, Ewan storms to victory on stage 2 of UAE Tour. These local mountain bikers tried Athletic Brewing Company's craft beer for the first time, and you'd be surprised by their reactions. He has been commentating on the Tour de France since 2009, and his deep knowledge of the race and the riders makes him one of the most respected commentators in the sport. Me too. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVams overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. Simon Yates drops back to the Peloton in the last 2km - Carlton Kirby: 'Yates has decided this isn't worth the candle' - i.e. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. It is guys sitting on a motorbike who pull up alongside a cyclist and say 'how are you doing?'. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. I never say when Im on-site vs. at the race. It's their commentators or silence. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator's weekly guide to what's not going on in cycling during the lockdown. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. Yep, thats my pick. Yates was obviously cooked - why else would anyone work for dozens of kilometres and then give up in the final 2km? Kirby laughs. Theres no doubt about it, the most difficult thing to do is cover nothing, he says. There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. Get access to more than 30 brands, premium video, exclusive content, events, mapping, and more. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. Twaddle. Carlton Kirby As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carlton's Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. JavaScript is disabled. Some pros think so, plus more tech news from Shimano, Zwift, Le Col, Dahon, Fairlight + more, Pick-up truck driver crashes into group of cyclists, leaving two dead and 11 injured. He was hinting today that he would be commentating on Paris-Roubaix (just after he said that Froome was 'over-raced' this year), so I'd be grateful if as many people as possible could comment/vote before it is too late: Mmmmm, unfortunately, the suggested replacement is just as clueless, just quieter. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. In the second episode of Story Time with Carlton Kirby, the Eurosport commentator reads an excerpt from his book (Magic Spanner) about how British cycling caused a seismic change in the. And, one can understand the enthusiasm that has kept him going despite the setbacks and even criticism from people. pic.twitter.com/fFcEf0AgHK, Volta a Catalunya (@VoltaCatalunya) March 25, 2019. I speak no language other than English. And somebody asked me, why dont you pronounce his name Foo-gel-sang instead ofFoolsong. I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. It is irretrievable. That is because like most hacks they are too arrogant to do any research and preparation. Apologies it's in super annoying meme form (we couldn't find the originalsource) but this is too good not too share! Story Time with Carlton Kirby: Mankini's and mechanicals | "The pictures were all over the news. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirby's voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosport's race coverage. There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. Win! It is not so bad if they are in front because the rider can tell the motorbike to go away, but if it is trailing the rider and the rider comes off, there is always the possibility of impact. It is all clearly not set in stone at the moment, and I hope that I'm not going to have some sharp intake of breath moments on commentary just because bikes are needlessly endangering the lives of cyclists. His knowledge of most non-english speaking riders can be written on the back of a postage stamp, with the exception of 'famous' foreigners like the Schlecks, Dertie Cont, Cancellera and after this spring Gilbert. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. Went for a bike ride earlier today. #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. The commentators day doesnt juststart when the racing does, with research and planning underwayas soon as breakfast is taken. The major problem with this is that you cannot follow a race he is commentating on unless you are watching it - i.e. VN:So, what really is gained by being on-site? Eurosport's commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. He suddenly realises how to beat Kittel, working out the formula to finish first. So, you have to ask yourself: What is different, and why is it worth it to actually go on-site? Bridport cycles. I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. i like the stuff the two GCN guys do, is it dan Loyd and Matt Stephens? why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. The headline does anyway, while the sources in the article cover a few different potential causes. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVam's overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. ), peppered with the repeated clichs (just see how many times he says 'puppy paws', joining the party or a dozen or so others). It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. Also add in several alert mobile keyholders. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Having spent over 25 years in the field, he has seen a lot, as many other countless commentators have seen. Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. Id love to see this Eurosport commentator substantiate even 1% of the outrageous claims he makes. 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. All rights reserved. You have engineers popping in and out, you have guests from the different languages, and the only thing separating us from the Germans, on our left, and the French, on our right, are thin sound walls its completely open at the back, he says. Would like to cancel eurosport but it's the only way to watch the classics (legitimately at least). Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. At other broadcasters you still have cue points, but its usually after youve finished making a point [because youre the only commentary team]. This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. It is a thrilling climax and its my job to convey that to the public. VeloNews: Whats the biggest difference for you when youre commentating on a race from back home, instead of attending the event? "Beware everybody, he is well and truly back!" yelled Carlton Kirby on Eurosport commentary. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's Riders having to get close to a motorbike just to take a corner. Ive just turned Catalunya on and hes already come out with I think he fell victim to his agent, so now hes at x team. The problem is that social media has allowed anyone and everyone to voice their opinion, regardless of their credibility. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. De Gendt, Volta 2019 Stage 1 winner. 26/8/22: Stage 6 of the Vuelta, Kirby informs us (clearly based on nothing) that Mark Padun is 'a master' at descending in the wet (at that precise moment, Padun is descending very gingerly, taking pretty poor lines). Its not something thats learned, or something you can prepare for. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . pic.twitter.com/RRu5rosVP4, Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) March 24, 2019, This time it's a driver who doesn't get the concept of taking the lane (and is caught soon after he risks an overtake on the clogged up London street anyway), Yesterday officers were helped by youths on pedal cycles & many other members of public in catching a thief (300 theft) from Bentley Bridge who security were chasing for a while. We have seen far too much of it - near collisions as much as actual collisions over the past few years. For me, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. I'm not sure if it was security, medical or a photographer who hit him, but essentially there was braking with four riders on the ground and the bike flipped before landing on the riders. Every stage of the Tour de France LIVE on British Eurosport HD. Eurosports commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. And hes trying to improve them. By using this website, you agree to our use of cookies. You get the atmosphere and emotion of a place. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. Mark Cavendish crossed the line first, and said Kittel came up to slap him in the back. Get the latest race news, results, commentary, and tech, delivered to your inbox. The current situation has made things difficult, where previously they would head over to the channel to cover Tour De France, now they sit in their studios and practice social distancing and looking at monitors. For me Kirby has the key ingredient I need from a commentator. The schedule and time duration work differently for every sport. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. The very aspect of commentating that requires filling the gaps spanning hours of no action is the reason. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. Astonishingly though, a single stage of the Tour de France lasts for about more than six hours. I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. Once its out there youre done, so youll just have to forgive me if I make the odd gaffe. A piece of the petition has gained over 542 signatures demanding the removal of Carlton Kirby from Eurosports, citing Unnecessary Screaming, Terrible Jokes as one of the biggest downsides. 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